Monday, 21 January 2019

Facebook Kicking People Out of Groups Who Don’t Participate?

Image result for IN or out ?I doubt it. The rule here is to NOT join, or vet closely  'closed' groups if you can, as they are comprised of people who agree with each other and a clique generally so you won't be allowed to challenge a point even if it is valid, they will close ranks against.  

Censorship on the net is rife and widely operated this way. Initially, the idea was to close groups to prevent spoilers and trolling, a valid aim but it evolved into the 'closed shop' and with too many moderators lacking any qualification to run a site, they become samey and the deluded mods become 'lords of own manor' enjoying the 'power' fo kicking people off-site or selecting only 'yes' people and those adopting the position of the site, inclusion doesn't apply on the net, because it cannot be enforced.  Deaf sites almost created this set up to initially protect the lesser able deaf being swamped by hearing input or the more able deaf view dictating how things are or should be.  The 'Pro-Deaf' sites are a travesty of democracy and wholesale bias as a result.

So we get polarised areas unable to accept realistic debates etc and each attacking the other in isolation.  Pro-charity, versus anti-pathetic stances etc, and pro-BSL/ASL against just about everyone who isn't.  If this is inclusivity and balance I'm a banana.

A lot just want to sound off to people in the same situation as they are, to get sympathy, break isolation, but they never get around to solving the original issue much, because the misery gets all-encompassing, and people enjoy too much complaining to each other it becomes a norm to preach to the converted,  Sites can fold if someone enters being aggressive about that and the mod allows alternative views in.  Mostly because the old retainers of the sites, and those with a blatant own agenda, are finding themselves exposed to realities they joined the net to avoid or don't want to listen to.

The net has created more issues than it will ever solve, and the nature of its use encourages more isolation, more extremism and more aggravation and bullying, there are hardly any 'open' sites that can cope with two people disagreeing with each other regardless how balanced it is.  'Disharmony' is the new black and an excuse to revert to the accepted status quo.  

Facebook is only interested in sites they can sell advertising too, and contentious sites do that for them,  hence a reluctance to kill that golden goose,  low-level area sites don't do anything for their profits.  The more people that participate in a site, the wider the FB selling area, it's quite cynical but, we don't pay anything for FB or twitter so hardly in the running to dictate.  FB also knows if they charge for their service people won't pay and go to other areas instead.

It's mooted FB is now just for oldies.  The only answer is to stop using facebook and have own site, then Facebook has no control over what is talked about, who joins in, or who doesn't.  What we lack are people with an ability to moderate, any fool can set up a site, not any fool can run it properly.  FB can be zeroed if we simply don't use their medium because then, they lose revenue and have to listen to us. We aren't passives with no control unless we choose to be, but the lure of something for nothing and a platform to talk bllx is all-consuming sadly.  We finally find people as inactive and pointless as we are, but 300 idiots is still 300 idiots.

ATR could easily do the same, follow anything and everything, and support whatever, but, why would we do that?  The site aim is individual as is the owner.  You cannot help but think those desperate to attain 'followers' and 'likes' are people who by default would not get them any other way except online and from people the same as them they are living the 'dream of inclusion' but without actually meeting people or demanding it in person.  Then surprised they aren't getting it. Inclusion is adding a digital signature to a petition no-one reads, or agreeing 'cest la vie' to every issue to avoid giving it real thought, and/or, avoid being honest in case the clique moves against, or you find out you really are a racist or homophobic or think the others on that site are stupids and easily led.. but that is life.

There are also claims many active FB and Twitter sites are being run by their own site clique's in that once someone challenges them to the point of a ban, they get blacklisted from the rest, cyberbullying.  ATR at deaf.read is visible proof of it happening.

Facebook isn't kicking people out of groups bad moderation is.

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