Thursday, 21 March 2019
Hard of Hearing respond to ATR...
#1 I’m one hard of hearing guy joined the Deaf Community and became a member of deaf clubs. Hearing loss is the same regardless. The issue is to understand Deaf culture. That’s the only difference. Now I’m involved in advocating for a deaf organization as well as a member of a local HLAA Chapter.
#2 I would be hesitant because I don’t think I would fully be accepted.
#3 I felt that but most deaf are really nice. The only rule is to accept their Deaf culture.
#4 I want to clarify I did to say I did not think they where nice people I just don't think I would be accepted. I wouldn't even know how to begin going to a deaf club. I also want to respond to your comment about " Not everyone will accept the deaf culture". I personally accept everyone and anyone that's a good person. Personally, since I have found out I'm hearing impaired I notice how others treat the hearing impaired & it makes me very sad they are impatient with them. I also see how the hearing impaired might tend to withdraw because of this. This is all just my humble opinion.
#5 I do not know sign language, so I do not think such clubs would accept me. But: I would if there were courses for SL, for instance. Or if those clubs were more hard of hearing, when one could discuss things together in different ways.
#6 Deaf people taught me sign language. If you are interested, there will those who love to teach only in social settings. That’s the best place to learn. Not just in the classes.
#7 I would LOVE to be in the deaf community and plan to be when I learn to sign.
#8 I’m a board member for a deaf nonprofit and I also help run Greater Columbus HLAA Chapter. I try to be involved as much as I can.
#9 Not if the only thing in common is hearing loss. I'm in this FB group. That'll do. Never had anything to do with the so-called Deaf 'culture'.
#10 My problem is I do not use sign language. It's already hard enough to adapt to the hearing world. I don't want to use more time to try to adapt to the deaf world. What we need is a group for the in-betweeners. The hard of hearing/deaf who live in hearing world culture. I've already done enough of trying to adapt. Just want to be accepted for me as I am.
#11 Same here! I’m living in the hearing world all my life. Hardly have any deaf/hard of hearing friends. All my friends are hearing and I’m happy to be part of their world
#12 Not everyone will accept the Deaf culture. That’s fine. We all have one thing in common. The inability to hear. I can hear well with hearing aids. Without them, I’m deaf.
#13 It bugs me when I see people using is written ASL rather than English. Don't Deaf schools teach written English? If students need to submit any assignment, whether college essays or job applications, it is a skill they must have.
#14 It is always difficult to address why there are diverse areas within the hearing loss and deafness ones. Diversity means we are entitled to own choices and give reasons for those. The reality as the blog pointed out, is already a remit exists that recognises that diversity. However, the way that remit is used is not strictly adhering to that diversity concept and tends to attempt encompassing all. Of course those hard of hearing who do choose to learn sign language and enter deaf clubs will know what the price of that is, there is no such thing as something for free. If hearing loss already isolates to a huge degree then the prospect of some social interaction and community looks a welcome positive.
#15 You are isolated already what's to lose? What needs to be taken into account is the life long members of those clubs had no options or very few others, they won't welcome those joining deaf clubs because nobody else will accept or include them, they aren't a 'consolation prize' for the failed acceptance by others!
#16 The reality is most clubs only exist in the city or concentrated areas of the population so outside of that choice is relative. Putting own cards on the table accepting hard of hearing lifestyles mean this doesn't include cultural deaf and signing areas. Should we not just accept the reality anyway and enhance own choices? It doesn't have to be part of or not of anything and it doesn't mean unacceptance, horses for courses.
#17 The UK has no HI/Hard of Hearing system of support of any note, the USA version portrays Hard of Hearing with an ASL 'front' as being 'inclusive' HoH don't see it that way. That was ATR's annoyance with the 'Deaf & HoH' remit, which the blogger claims was being widely abused, even the USA areas fail to clarify, suggesting a unity that isn't really proven at all. Yes we all have hearing loss, but, there it tends to end. There is no HoH 'community'.
#18 The die is cast already apart from the few who believe sign language is their own particular salvation. The HoH prefer own ways of dealing with it. Mostly, this will not mean going to deaf clubs or adopting sign language. OK, these deaf have a culture, so? how is that relevant to us? It's pointless suggesting this is 'anti-culture' or something. The ATR blog tends to be contentious, I don't always agree with it, but if that's the only way to address issues I suppose you have to risk it.