Saturday, 30 May 2020

One World?

Coca-Cola's 'Hilltop' Ad ("I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing ...[Cue 'I'd like to teach the world to sign...'] As a poster challenges both a UK dedicated BSL site and a Hard of hearing one on their own remit failures.

"This group is for ALL people who have a hearing loss. Some of those people rely on interpreters and this is an amazing campaign to support people like them. Like Jasper says, we are ONE community fighting for equality!"

I would disagree respectfully, we don't really need a constant barrage of awareness of other people's needs but a distinct focus on our own, I would agree the concept of altogether is a great idea (if unrealistic as areas are already going it alone).  

I do not think it works, as we can see any query we do things for our own HoH area without proclaiming we all sign as well,  is seen as some sort of discrimination, you can get a quite hostile response if you say I would rather this not that.  I've stopped paying 'lip-service' to others because it is dishonest, it's being false, and cowardly basically. 

The UK has no HoH system of support and no real awareness either. There are obviously HoH who sign as well but that is just blurring the definitions they are minuscule in number,  unrepresentative, and it's not really advancing the HoH case.  

Charities and focus groups, awareness seminars, individuals and minority groups, deaf and HI awareness campaigners etc all can 'specialise' legally,  e.g the BDA, who don't include the HoH, and often won't provide subtitles either and speak in our name statistically they also claim a 'Deaf and Hi' remit along with many others because they lose funds if they don't look inclusive but we know they aren't.   Once BSL is mentioned we know that isn't the HoH automatically.

Why is every plea for our HoH support seen as an 'attack' on the signers?  A stand-alone system for HoH is perfectly legitimate a demand.  We have the numerical clout to do it as well.  Most people posting here declare they are ...

(A) Not the same people.

(B) Do not have the same aims.

(C) Do not have the same social norms.

(D) Do not have the same communication needs.

(E) Do not have the same view of hearing loss or deafness.

Saying we aren't inclusive, is failing to understand long-established norms.  Deaf aren't inclusive, only of each other that's all and have some legal right to stay that way.   I don't see your sites viable in those respects to say we are 'all one and the same' it's not true, and this isn't a coca-cola advert it is our lives.

I wish the signer well but I'm not them, and I'm not spending my life ignoring my need because it isn't theirs.  We can co-exist it's what they are doing already.  THAT is equality.  Stop with the one world crap, never heard of diversity? or a right to choose?  It doesn't mean only YOU get to do that, equality is a double-edged sword.   You cannot do what you want, IF, it affects someone else.  You cannot speak in other people's name either.

Democracy is a myth too.

The 'Freedom' Pass

Freedom Pass on Twitter: "London Councils are closed until 2 ...
"Has anyone been turned down when reapplying for their freedom pass after holding one for 5 years. I’m being told I no longer meet the criteria, which hadn’t changed and being a previous holder means didley swot!! I’ve appealed and no joy and cannot appeal further as it’s a “policy” decision???"

Here they are removing them.    I don't know about other areas but the rules seem different depending on where you live because it goes through local authorities or used to, also subsidies are not being funded by a lot of areas who cannot afford it.  A lot would look to see if you were registered with their social or welfare services, if not they would be reluctant to approve or renew a pass without another assessment, they won't just accept nothing has changed for you, obviously, if a change for the worse has happened, it would need a re-assessment also. 

Using LA social and welfare provision was a rubber stamp to get one as they have already approved or supported your issue etc. It's a throwback in part to the deaf people who were with social services all the time and had their own dept as well as LA's being heavily involved in their disability/mobility support.  It's fair to say a lot of deaf are now not getting automatic passes either or welfare allowances.

The price of deaf emancipation it seems. The pass provision was expanded by legal test case brought by a hard of a hearing woman, who proved that an inability to hear announcements and such on trains or airports or bus station/coaches or able to follow speech properly, meant she got lost or left behind and incurred higher costs as a result.  

It was still argued this did not justify free travel as that situation still hadn't changed, communication would still be an issue, the legal case was however successful in proving subsidised travel was proven a case.. the system was already subsidising disabled with same/similar issues. It was a breakthrough, in that it changed the definition of 'mobility' (And indeed disability). 

HoH got them initially, regardless of how much loss they had, but that has changed, systems now demand you prove a very high degree of loss first and to prove you needed assistance with it, deaf signers had lesser problems doing that because most rely on interpreters.  

HoH had huge issues because they didn't or had a support system as such, and it came down to how you managed in front of an assessor, lip-reading well invalidated a claim etc.. you can be punished for doing the best you can, pride was a fatal approach as HoH then wouldn't press the issue or challenge a denial despite a success rate of 65% if they did.  Many lost a pass altogether, 63% recently lost PIP/DLA for the same reason.   

Hearing loss awareness hasn't a norm, and affects different people in different ways, a db here or there (or using a hearing aid), means systems demand 'proof' that even with such 'help' it is still a problem for you.  There are cases where sign users were challenged recently because they can travel on their own thus 'proving' they don't need any special help/free travel concession to do that.  That is the system challenging again the original breakthrough case criteria to make it not reliant on hearing loss problems.

If you undertook an assessment alone then your claim could fail automatically, the fact you were able was proof enough to the system you can manage. HoH are not social or welfare users mostly, so no reference point there to quote, the DWP has also hardened the rules and are challenging hearing loss claims. The more independent we all become the less need for support is the view.

The rows are on mobility because the passes were designed initially for people e.g. who had wheelchairs or had physical issues getting around, (as is the LA 'Direct Payment' allowance designed to help further), no deaf can claim that it is pretty specific to the blind mostly or deaf-blind despite the criteria stating it covers 'sensory impairment', the deaf and HoH aren't deemed in that same definition unless there are other serious disabilities as well.

Claims by HoH get challenged because by and large our 'mobility' issue is specifically a communication problem not e.g. walking etc. A lot still get challenged on buses because they are showing no sign of an inability to get around, our issue is invisible, thus what you cannot see doesn' exist to others.  Deaf people using assistance dogs are being asked to prove they are blind etc...  

Free or subsidised travel on public/rail transport may well become a thing of the past for many disabled areas.  The more access we win the less welfare support you can claim it follows.

Friday, 29 May 2020

Why you should wear face masks.

Hearing Aids are a Fashion.

Hearing Aids Just for Fashion from Kirsty Ramsay-Hogan on Vimeo.

ATR: I'm up for a laugh but it slipped into lecture and irony mode (again), it's why deaf doing own awareness doesn't succeed.   Sadly I think topical and cutting humour (And awareness), should be left to hearing people.  

The 'let's take the pee out of hearing unawareness to make a point', gig is too dated now.  Try humour that crosses the divide?  I Just feel deaf are far funnier than this but need to find a level with hearing to make it work by being more topical.  Perhaps if she did it with a red nose and wig it might work?

How many deaf does it take to change a light bulb?

None, they can't see each other in the dark so didn't understand the question.

Readers should not this isn't a poor joke by ATR, but a joke taken FROM a deaf BSL site, don't call us.

Thursday, 28 May 2020

Cochlear Deaf and Covid

Absolutely brilliant.

New Zealander's got better access than us?

Good on New Zealand supporting their deaf community signers.  

Unfortunately, we didn't read what support they offered to the deaf who do not sign or even the hard of hearing there.  Like the UK they don't really exist I suppose, a penalty for being literate.

The New Zealanders seem to have swallowed UK BSL hype regarding lack of supported sign updates, [which wasn't actually true].  The UK has 4 autonomous regions each responsible for its own area, and allegedly (!) following a unity course and approach to battle the COVID virus.

As regards to lack of sign access, Boris Johnson had live BSL interpretation for the very first public broadcast he made regarding the virus on March 18th, [and before he succumbed to it himself].  In order to protect the head of government and its ministers at Number 10 Downing Street, it was decided not to put the BSL terp or the government representatives, at potential risk of infection in what was a smaller room.  

This is STILL the case as interpretation is done remotely, where prior to the interpretation (Also done remotely) was put on the BBC news channels afterwards instead.  This has been an established norm on the BBC News channel for the BSL user for years.  The difference only being updated sign broadcasts are at a different time (but still daily).  The other regions also broadcast at differing times to avoid area updated transmissions clashing.

Some regions were seen with a terp in the same room, this triggered claims England hadn't done that, so discrimination claims ensued.  However regional updates consist of only ONE person in the room where government/England live updates have 2 or 3 so not practical in one room at Number 10 to include another one (The BSL Terp).  Boris was also infected so health and safety kicked in as regards to BSL terp inclusions.

There were also concerns the BSL interpreter would be unable to effectively live translate everything given a large amount of technical slides, statistical information, medical jargon, and remote questioning that was taking place.    The BSL terp does have its limitations.

As we know BSL hasn't the dictionary, or many deaf the knowledge, to follow all that detail in a 15-minute update, not all hearing do either, details were expanded on for them afterwards in more simplistic a format and at greater length.  Like the hearing all you get really is edited highlights on any news broadcast.

As ATR stated there emerged dozens of deaf charities/individuals taking to the online area including SignHealth etc who assist in explaining the detail a BSL terp was not really able to convey on those live updates, discriminations never really existed.  There was a query that remained unanswered in that the two deaf TV BSL programs of SEE HEAR and BSL ZONE did not step up its support and coverage at all which the channels are designed to do for the UK's BSL  deaf population.  It was their time to justify their output and they didn't do that.

BSL terps rarely go into detail live, there isn't the time. As an aside most UK interpreters of BSL do not possess the specialist knowledge or training to explain details and BSL has limitations itself via lack of signs.  Some Interpreters do train for specific translating areas (E.G. Law, or mental health etc), but most don't.  The UK barrage of statistics would baffle most mathematicians, the political response, even more of a lottery!  

In doing a national broadcast, regional sign variations, learning difficulties etc all mean it gets pretty simplistic to appeal to the most.  

The prime access was subtitling, we doubt any deaf missed much.  More people speak polish and Urdu in the UK than BSL but they got nothing.  It's an anomaly the deaf seem unable to adapt as migrants have to.

The deaf approach to the virus has been one of claiming poor access and neglect, it's a perennial issue and they object by rote or habit regardless, but the real issue is a lack of understanding how their own communication works in the hearing environment, or, how effective their language is in doing that. 

Some responded by demanding the removal of protective equipment from the Drs and Nurses so they could lip-read, which raised a few eyebrows,  although few deaf rely on that except to assist the sign, they rely mostly on sign language and lip-reading would have been all they got, by people who aren't trained to lip-speak, so this would not have addressed BSL access issues.

A lot of deaf failed to utilise online access (or as we know many older deaf are not even online at all), or knew where the televised access was.  If there was an error it was clearly the fact BBC TV and other media had failed to put any links up as to where it was. Access was there, the deaf and government failed to move quick enough to tell anyone.  Regions still have a live terp, England doesn't it's 'in-vision', because it updates differently and in far more detail it being central government.

New Zealand boasted 100s of languages used but did not on their TV updates provide access for hardly any of them either.  It isn't practicable.  The UK/USA deaf are still getting the 'Lion's Share' of live update access by comparison, be happy OK?

"As we emerge from the last of lockdown and begin to look beyond our borders again, let’s not forget the vital role language skills play in strengthening our economic, political and cultural connections to the rest of the world, writes Sally Hill. This week is Vaiaso o le Gagana Samoa – Samoan Language Week – and despite the restrictions of Level 2 many people are finding innovative ways to celebrate the richness of our third most widely-spoken language. 

Others will be aware that this is also International Languages Week, “an opportunity to showcase, learn, and promote the diverse languages and cultures in our schools, communities, and nation”. Yet, with our borders closed to the rest of the world, some might question the relevance of international languages to the challenges we currently face. And unfortunately within those borders even the importance of all our official languages is not universally recognised. But the Covid-19 crisis has in fact vividly demonstrated the ongoing and increasing importance of translation, multilingualism and intercultural communication in Aotearoa New Zealand. Within our unique bicultural setting, more than 160 languages are spoken. 

Over the past couple of decades, New Zealand’s linguistic and cultural diversity has increased to the point that we are now one of a small number of nations identified as “superdiverse”. This means fast access to accurate and up-to-date official information in multiple languages about a threat like Covid-19 is essential, particularly for potentially vulnerable communities. The World Health Organisation has long noted that “[l]anguage can be a barrier to accessing relevant and high-quality health information and delivering appropriate health care”. Numerous studies have shown poor intercultural communication in healthcare settings can have devastating consequences, and – especially in stressful situations – even people relatively fluent in the dominant language benefit from access to clear, reliable health information in their own language. 

While minority language communities in the UK lamented the lack of translations of crucial health information, and in the US the Trump administration ordered immigration judges to remove bilingual Spanish and English Centers for Disease Control and Prevention coronavirus advice posters from court buildings, New Zealand saw rapid moves across a number of agencies and organisations to ensure speakers of languages other than English were able to access key COVID-related information. "

Wednesday, 27 May 2020


Swan Lake to be performed in dancers’ own bathtub

A performance of Swan Lake recorded in the dancers’ own bathtubs features among 25 works announced by BBC Arts as part of its lockdown programme.

Swan Lake to be performed in dancers’ own bathtubs
Choreographer Corey Baker has recruited dancers from various companies for a short film, titled Swan Lake Bath Ballet, based on Tchaikovsky’s music.

The commissions are backed by Arts Council England and are part of the BBC’s Culture In Quarantine programme, prompted by the Covid-19 lockdown. Elsewhere in the programme, Cathy Mager’s Sign Night sees the performances of deaf artists projected onto landmarks and buildings.  

[I blame the virus myself, albeit it's a step up to playing with your rubber duck.]

Tuesday, 26 May 2020

To CI or Not to CI

50 years of Test Card F - TV ForumIs it even a question?  Social media agonising (that is what the lockdown does to you, you start watching TV again), about a UK soap opera currently obsessed with the burning issue, well, smouldering anyway, i.e. does the character, a gay murderer, should or not, get a CI after going suddenly deaf for a reason nobody is quite sure?  As is the common BBC political response a sign user emerges who doesn't really need to, because is a decent lip-reader, advising him to sign instead as the deaf community is lovely, and accepts the fact he hears less than we do or does he? (Bit of a spoiler there).

I don't watch EastEnders its BBC crap (And that was just the producer opinion), and from the start, it appears to be about people nobody likes and nobody cares for, being as disgusting as possible.  As a TV version of a back street Soho cinema where the audience is mostly comprised of furtive middle-aged blokes wearing plastic raincoats clutching the nudists' monthly magazine,  and fumbling about in the dark, it may be taking inclusion perhaps a bit too far to make it a prime time viewing program.

BBC Archive - 1952: Interlude: Potter's Wheel | FacebookAttempts to be 'with it' by including everyone from paedophiles to yer local and average rapists, gays to ethnics, (They appear to be missing a trick failing to include a transgender character or someone with 3 heads but), most are alcoholics or teen family killers being converted to Islam overnight (Like that happens!), and in between drug sales, or sleeping with your own relatives, but there is no 'issue' they won't include in their drive to look 'inclusive'. 
If that's inclusivity I don't want it.  If that is London I want to emigrate.  Apparently, online suggests the 'deaf' man used to be hard of hearing with an aid, who then stopped wearing one for 5 years, changed his face 3 or 4 times, (I wouldn't be happy with it either), who went from straight to Gay and the Albert to Broadmoor, i.e. after serving time for murder, and then wanting to kill his own father (As you do, but he'd have to queue up with most BBC viewers first),  now he is struggling with  CI or sign language angst.  We are betting sign language because we doubt he can spell Cochlear.  

Byron Bay Naturist Group And Agenda - Posts | FacebookDo both?  Do neither? or get banged up again? decisions, decisions... Don't try to understand the logic behind this TV show it hasn't any.  I don't really care if he has a CI, signs or his hearing miraculously returns next week in the post either just don't let him out on the street without letting us all know.   The result is intended to be controversial by warming up old chestnuts and it isn't even Christmas yet.  Controversial is telling him to shove it up his backside and use an ear trumpet instead.

Perhaps it's just a rustic social service training video? ergo this is the really worst scenario you could encounter (Assuming you live in or just arrived from Neptune), what would you do about it? (Short of praying someone levels the place and builds a theme park on it dedicated to the plight of gay badgers or taking up macrame instead).  

David Icke kicked from Facebook for peddling misinformation | E&T ...You can be sure the BBC's addiction to being politically correct and taking advice from any loony tune London focus group not yet locked away somewhere, or not yet run by David Icke (Whose convinced wayward lizards are all behind it all and created Donald Trump),  will mean a total fudge anyway.  

I'm with the 'let's all watch the test card or potters wheel instead' campaign and hope the BBC licence is removed and the show producers start taking their own advice and seek clinical help somewhere.  They often put at the end of some ridiculous 'gritty' episode 'if what you have seen upsets you, please contact..' and gives you a list of do-gooders currently on day release to make things a whole lot  bloody worse.  

Maybe they get 5% like justgive to point funders their way? It could then mean they aren't targeting 80yr olds to pay more for this rubbish.  It's bad enough they are confined to care homes for the duration. Sorry, we're all fed up of being made 'aware' thanks.  Such people don't exist if they do London is in REAL trouble. We'll end up like the USA, where it is apparently obligatory to include at least 4 or 5 minorities regardless of what the TV soap is about, or include someone with leprosy and no legs determined to run a marathon in the terminally ill wards, and god blessing America, we do too and hope they stay there.

I'm full of ideas if the soap creators want to consult me... for a price of course.  Just stick to the unbelievable rubbish like e.g. Dr Kildare who cured everything in an hour from Cancer to brain transplants then sewing legs back on his tea break in-between ads, and won the girl every week (usually the blind one)...

No wonder the rest of the UK defied London and voted to get the hell out of Europe too.  We even thanked the virus for killing off Eurovision, although they did wheel out a few on Zimmers who won it when we had only Black and White TV, the black and white minstrels shows,  and 2 channels with people dressed like Fred Astaire accompanied by the Palm Court Orchestra.  

No more soap operas please I'm in awareness overload on my fourth Chablis bottle, and don't care for anything at present, perhaps a lesson to those creating awareness? Drink less Chablis more white lightening?  give it a rest, please.  You have depressed more people than Covid 19.

Monday, 25 May 2020

Carry on up the deaf club!

The Carry On movies are getting a reboot with two new films in the ...
'Doesn't equality mean Deaf can do as they choose?'

"The view of equality means doing your own thing your own way, but that tends to prevent real equality happening.  It becomes relative not actual. 

I am I suppose, the Don Quixote of the hearing loss area in many respects, but to paraphrase an old Frank Sinatra song 'oops there goes another rubber tree plant.' in that it was a view if you stick to that point and chip away eventually you have to get there in the end and topple that tower at least create a situation whereby debate can actually occur.  Jaw Jaw better than being War War.

I don't see questioning culture or support approaches as an assault on freedom of choice, mostly because I don't believe choice or preference has much to do with it. I don't know anyone who prefers disability. I do read there are people who 'prefer' to be deaf, blind or even wheelchair-bound.  Even a group in the UK and USA who deliberately disabled themselves because they 'envy' the community ethos and closeness the Deaf have.  I did a blog at the time where I infiltrated that group and saw advice on 'how to make yourself deaf by sticking knitting needles in your ear, pouring acid into it, or feigning deafness and being mute and using sign not speech etc to square the circle of how they saw the deaf.

What can we do about it?  deafness or other disabilities are, so just we just get on with it, I do anyway.  Looking at the bigger picture that tends to mean coping/managing your issue means you tend to accept nothing much can be done about or no changes will ever occur etc.

I don't go with that.  Some deaf areas took it a step further declared not being able to hear was a right etc and started to attack others who sought out cochlear implants or hearing aids, promoted oral approaches, or were against alleviating hearing loss, they said it justified attacking other people's 'choice' (Or their parents choice),  by saying it demeaned them and their culture.  

At that point, I thought that's the line you are not allowed to cross.  Nobody can be 'more equal'' than others. You may be entitled to your view no matter how obscure it is, but, you cannot go at other people's.  Do no harm to others.  Obviously, the Deaf can bring in the heavy weaponry then by throwing discrimination claims at you regarding their 'disability' (Despite not accepting that description of their issue), and you are going at their culture by default as they don't see the difference.  They are a minority pretending to be a majority. 

I have rarely seen them able to defend a lot of it outside their own closed areas and social aspect.  Where curiously the image promoted is one of deprivation and discrimination and blaming everyone else for it.  The elephant in the room are the other deaf and those hard of hearing, currently playing lip-service whatever they do, because they can not be bothered to challenge them.  They  run scared of being accused of some discrimination or other, so cest la vie rules and stand well clear seems to be the order of the day.  

I never chose to do that but to challenge the fact promoting isolation as a necessary norm to protect culture e.g. is undermining equality access and integration, not only for others worse off but for themselves. Awareness is done by rote or plain bias, with no real desire to take advantage of any door currently closed, being opened for them.  If it is they can demand where that door leads to and usually, that is back where they started from if it means outsiders coming in.

Of course most deaf have no time at all for the nonsense as managing their daily lives takes higher priority.  I think most is online and done by people who barely rely on sign at all or are able to function in hearing and deaf situations without much issue, but the tail is wagging the dog mainly due to rich pickings from funds if you go about it the right way.  You can become a cultural or deaf expert overnight and charge people to listen to you. 

Recent closures of deaf culture charities and support charities for the deaf has shown such people are wasting huge amounts of disability funding and undermining support for their own too. ELDS saw 130 deaf left with no care cover after the charity was found financially incapable of running deaf support, 70 deaf staff lost their jobs too, the BDA saw ALL their trustees mass resigning and they still run that charity on some feudal based system threatening members with legal action if they disclose how that charity is run or how it should be.  The RNID/AOHL sold off their deaf care too and assistive device market lets all campaign instead, they been there done that and look at what happened.

It suggests to me the emphatic over-focus on the cultural/sign aspect overrode common sense, divided people by mode used, and created neglect of duty and care to the deaf.  I complained to my MP that culture should not be recognised as a charity at all also that any area setting up a charity has to provide proof of a capability to run it and for a cause that is recognisable and not being met anywhere else already.  

You and I know the CC is a government arm in reality and they are quite happy to let disabled, deaf, whatever, screw it all up for themselves, blame then doesn't go their way.  I suppose I want support charities that try to emulate a system the government and health authorities abandoned years ago should be closed, and state care returned again.  It is a simple admittance we made a mess of it ourselves and it has allowed care to deteriorate not improve.  Deaf and HoH charities blew it.  Let's get back to a system that sticks to the rules and is there all the time and is accountable which charity does not seem to be.  

To avoid being exposed, some charities are becoming Limited 'Companies', charity was never designed to do that surely?  They no longer are charities once they do that and challenge the status quo by being tax-exempt which other legitimate companies are not who are delivering same services.

The equality laws are now unviable.  Having been at the launch of the original back in the 90s we knew then the acceptance of the '90s Disability Act was a sell-out. We wanted to stick to our guns, our charities wanted the funding and saw a way to cash in, so we lost.  All I am seeing now are re-runs of issues the Act was supposed to have addressed.  the state divided the disabled and the amateurs moved in to screw it all up.  Thus proving we can make as much of a mess as anyone else can."

Sunday, 24 May 2020

We are ALL deaf enough.

What happens in practice seems different, the USA seems more 'inclusive' of others who don't sign, but in the UK that isn't usually the case. Deaf tend to segregate 'like with like' and don't really socialise with those who don't sign on the simple grounds they say they cannot follow. 

End of discussion, it's very frustrating.   There is an area of ' sign purism' that would rather not include themselves with non-signers as well, these are the people who say you are not deaf enough, as being deaf means something different to them than a profound loss of hearing. The ability or choice to sign (Or not to), is not really understood it usually results in a parting of the ways or annoyance, who makes effort is an issue signers don't unless you attempt to sign as well.   But they still won't adapt to what you are using.

Nothing further then happens.   Younger deaf are more outgoing and willing to adapt, but it seems to tail off as you get older. So that is not really accepting choice its saying you won't adapt and I cannot in most part. Everyone signed on the video, without being negative I would think, this is not to do with me as a deaf person. I don't do that I use something else, its a choice then do I attempt to integrate with the signer? or stick to the hearing world I prefer to, and use whatever helps with that? 

The culture means nothing to me or the social area because my own choice was to stay with what I knew.  It seems the background of these deaf follows the same approach they stick with people and systems they know.  The 'You aren't deaf enough' thing is an extreme deaf attempt to 'defend' sign language against all other formats, choice-based or not so inclusion and acceptance are the real victims.

Dr, Dr...

HoH not happy with BBC TV's poor awareness attempts on its medical soap opera 'Casualty' (Claiming the major casualty was, in fact, awareness itself), and failed to include or make people aware of those with hearing loss.

"Not sure if this has been mentioned anywhere but on tonight’s episode of casualty on BBC 1 there was bsl as there was a deaf patient who only lip reads and signs but there was also a deaf nurse who was an interpreter. Thought it was worth a mention on here. I believe if you watch it on iPlayer you can get subtitles."

"Do we ever get a speech to text reporter/lip speaker/notetaker/palantypist shown on a programme for the 10-12 MILLION non-signing hard of hearing/deaf folk? I seem to see interpreters for 250,000 THOUSAND signers but no mention of help for the majority?"

"I am absolutely with you on that. I'm fed HoH are playing second fiddle to someone else's awareness and the image is HoH are all signers too. I am all for inclusion and awareness whatever format is used but it is all so one-sided. You see someone deaf or someone hard of hearing out comes the BSL, why? Eastenders is doing the same, Ci's won't work without BSL either and those seeking a CI are in BSL denial or something.."

"At the start, the deaf man claimed he was a lip-reader, but the next thing we saw was not a lip-speaker, but a sign using nurse with a hearing aid instead, she was not an interpreter. HoH should complain or at least make some attempt at own awareness, but it doesn't happen does it? TV is killing hard of hearing awareness off, titles that's all we will ever need is the view. We should have seen speech to text apps there, the medical flashcards, and yes a lip-speaker too. If only to justify the fact some of us lip-read, this man clearly stated what his preferred mode was and got something BSL instead.."

"250,000 BSL users?  someone must be breeding them or importing them! even the BDA the font of all BSL claims, statistics and wisdom, only stretched it to 78,000 and got it in the neck for that, lies, damned lies."

"Who asked for a BSL terp? apparently, it was the Dr so they are out of the awareness loop as well. As someone who understands some sign language the patient deaf got few details it was all broken down to simple explanations, either they know BSL doesn't do details or assume the deaf won't understand anyway (oops!).

"Yes I saw that the Dr said 'is there a sign for haemoglobin'? There aren't any BSL medical signs, its point at the bit that hurts mostly and then ask how much... so most staff wing it using educated guesswork and tests, a system you would use on a child basically."

"They are taking out this, testing that, without explaining why, then he wandered off and collapsed (As they do on that program, someone needs to tie them to the bed)."

"We all know signing deaf can read minds, so no explanation is necessary."

"I didn’t see it but read the post I responded to which mentioned BSL or signing and that in itself meant none of the majority’s needs would be seen or referred to. The simple question “how does he/she communicate?” Would have provided the chance to refer to these differences. Those for whom sign is the first language have all my sympathy and support, but it would be nice to know they could have some sympathy for us struggling to communicate in a different world too ......"

"The bit I saw was the man with good speech. He didn't ask for sign help, the Dr requested it on seeing he was deaf, sign help was offered by the nurse (who was an ex or something), and knew he signed as well, although a bit later on in the story his wife turned up as a non-signer who he had no trouble following, continuity was all to the wind after."

"Deaf or HoH awareness a complete mess. And it all looks like token inclusion I don't see how the awareness works. But the sign is the thing so long as it is seen that's the awareness, it is never about hearing loss  The BBC needs to consult other hearing loss areas, not just the signing ones."