Saturday, 15 August 2020
And wearing a badge to prove it? Latest topic for discussion being as we are bored senseless with clear mask and lip-reading demands. An area online selling 'Deaf Aware' badges and 'Deaf Friendly'? ones not meeting with complete support. 15 alternative views here.
#1 Why would I want someone with a badge? I just get on with it. It is a pandemic, so normal rules do not apply any more and being friendly won't mean they should risk COVID for you, and I would not ask them to, would you risk it for them?
#2 Deaf friendly? what on earth does that mean? We have to look for people willing to help? Are the ones without a badge the ones to avoid?
#3 It is too dependent on where you go to meet people, mostly I don't move in deaf circles but pursue the life as per hearing on the street, I found with few exceptions near most would assist if I explained I couldn't hear, a lot of deaf refuse to admit they can't and blag it, get caught out get angry after, or ask if others to sign instead, pointless 9 out of 10 hearing won't be able to do that.
#4 Deaf awareness has never worked because it's unrealistic to make it a demand even as a right. You can demand via the systems but to demand of the public, not going to happen. That requires YOU to make an equal effort. So you only get back as much as you are prepared to give yourself. It's probably the only way awareness can work.
#5 People respond better if you ask and try to meet them half-way, some won't? move on. Just don't give up.
#6 I've never seen a badge or awareness gig that ever worked and the lip-reading thing is a non-event, most of us CAN'T and we need to be honest about it. it's a 'tool' in our means to follow but works in tandem with other things, and those aren't always there.
#7 Assuming someone wears a badge saying 'deaf-friendly' or 'deaf aware', would we approach them for assistance? I would want a good lip-speaker, others would want someone who signs, but would we get either? most people cannot speak clearly, and sign users would want a lot more than a bit of fingerspelling.
#8 9 out of 10 deaf awareness courses/seminars or lessons do not contain enough to be of use to us. It's a cushy number for a few deaf charities or individuals to run them but they aren't enough to make awareness work for most.
#9 The sole advice is speak clearly and as normal or write things down because sign users would want a professional they aren't going to approach strangers with a badge.
#10 It would help if the badges said to what proficiency can they help. I've seen AOHL teach business and even local government awareness to their staff then found the people they taught struggled when faced with us, or couldn't be found when asked for. There is no way of identifying who is aware.
#11 ABC fingerspelling and colour signs are really NOT enough to assist a deaf person who needs a conversation and explanation of something. The BDA awareness e.g. refutes speech and lip-reading and just do sign, with a bit of culture thrown in, which basically ignores 80% of us all. I suspect 99% of hearing have no idea of the D/d thing either.
#12 Why would they? I don't give a shit for it either! The only people capable of teaching our awareness is ourselves. Others are just going to suggest what is best for them.
#13 It requires a 'norm', those with hearing loss just don't have one. For those who need an interpreter, nothing will change.
#14 We've been there done that. Deaf aren't really interested, its an HI thing.
#15 Yep, like HoH cards etc, Deaf never took them up.
Friday, 14 August 2020
Thursday, 13 August 2020
From social media comment that actually does not rabbit on about clear masks, lip-reading, but if the aim really IS to include deaf people?
#1 As long as I can remember the deaf world has been plagued by do-gooders who want to change things by inventing new names. The deaf world and particularly the Deaf world tend to be manipulated by hearing social workers who want to sort it all out.
One of the ways they do this is to keep changing the language.
That's where all these things like partially hearing and hearing-impaired come from. Instead of using plain old fashioned "deaf" they invent new and "better" ways of expressing it. This needs to stop. Years ago people with a noticeable hearing loss would call themselves partially deaf. This was not good enough for the do-gooders and they decided to change it to partially hearing. Most deaf people were quite definite about it.
We're deaf. We want to be called deaf. It's what we are. But still the social workers kept saying partially hearing. It's disrespectful, that's wot it is. So why do all these people keep trying to change things? We should tell them to eff off. Deafness is OURS not theirs. Every name change creates another discriminated against area."
"Our worlds such as they are, contain, Deaf, deaf, HI, HoH, deaf-blind, deafened, and I gather half a dozen others... including cultural and non-cultural deaf, all based really not on the degree of loss or access but what format to communicate you are using, this was a system we vowed never to support, a division by decibel, race, culture, loss degree or communication used, even how you live or were educated gets defined and often with no consultations or permissions being given, and since nobody uses just one means defining people this way isolates unfairly.
Any more labels on our back we won't need to worry about being an invisible disability area, but it will still not make anyone aware of the need. Perhaps it IS a charity, social worker, deaf awareness focus group, and interpreter backed job-creating scheme. If so none of it is working for us which is a worry. Horses for courses has become a mantra for discrimination being validated, and the discriminators are....... US because we go along with it. Don't we have names any more?"
Posted by MM at Thursday, August 13, 2020